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		By: chris burke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris burke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[come on you bola brothers the town has made you money its time you got the building started and and not made the town  look so shanty the councill helped you both to improve the old seacroft hotel  now its time you both honoured their good will and got the project started the town had faith in you so come on lets improve the town and you have faith in the town we want to be proud of you as much as the building that goes up your fight might be with the councill the people of skegness dont have a fight against you ......regards chris]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">make skegness great</strong><p>come on you bola brothers the town has made you money its time you got the building started and and not made the town  look so shanty the councill helped you both to improve the old seacroft hotel  now its time you both honoured their good will and got the project started the town had faith in you so come on lets improve the town and you have faith in the town we want to be proud of you as much as the building that goes up your fight might be with the councill the people of skegness dont have a fight against you &#8230;&#8230;regards chris</p>
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		By: joan bennett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joan bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-293&quot;&gt;Tracy&lt;/a&gt;.

Skegness seems to be changing more than I thought, and maybe I will be looking more closely this year at whether it is still right for us to go there, in view of the comments about drunks and druggy needles in the parks.

ive always respected Skegness for its open friendly and put going nature, and yes its lost some of its grandeur, the shops signs are faded and the market needs some painting up, the awnings on shops are a bit weather beaten but thats just aging and the economy;-allowances can be made for that.

THE PEOPLE are friendly, and restaurant staff try to be helpful. Its such a shame if this is allowed to drag Skeggy into the mire. True drunks are SPENDING MORE, in bars and on &quot;entertainment&quot; but will this increase the crime rates, and deter family visitors? Will anyone care, because families tend to spend less;-but they dont allow for the &#039;pester power&#039; of kids!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Resorts Future its all money!!!</strong><p>In reply to <a href="http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-293">Tracy</a>.</p>
<p>Skegness seems to be changing more than I thought, and maybe I will be looking more closely this year at whether it is still right for us to go there, in view of the comments about drunks and druggy needles in the parks.</p>
<p>ive always respected Skegness for its open friendly and put going nature, and yes its lost some of its grandeur, the shops signs are faded and the market needs some painting up, the awnings on shops are a bit weather beaten but thats just aging and the economy;-allowances can be made for that.</p>
<p>THE PEOPLE are friendly, and restaurant staff try to be helpful. Its such a shame if this is allowed to drag Skeggy into the mire. True drunks are SPENDING MORE, in bars and on &#8220;entertainment&#8221; but will this increase the crime rates, and deter family visitors? Will anyone care, because families tend to spend less;-but they dont allow for the &#8216;pester power&#8217; of kids!</p>
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		By: tim holliland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tim holliland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[no one needs to worry about the sky pier project like other ventures of the bola brothers it will never get off the ground]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Development</strong><p>no one needs to worry about the sky pier project like other ventures of the bola brothers it will never get off the ground</p>
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		By: Damon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Damon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the gentleman&#039;s club is going to be opening around 10pm, shouldn&#039;t young children be at home getting ready for bed if they are not already in it.

I was born in Skegness and grew up there, there has always been a mixture of sex, alcohol, gambling and fighting, don&#039;t you remember the mods, rockers, hells angels, skinheads all coming to town. It never stopped people visiting with their children.

And by the time kids in Skegness hit 13 they are already knowledgeable about what goes on in the town etc. I think a lot of the responsibility should be for the parents to parent their kids, if being close to a gentleman&#039;s club is a problem then it&#039;s up to you as parents to keep your kids away. Skegness needs all the help it can get to keep it financially healthy with people willing to spend their money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Gentleman's Club Opening Hours</strong><p>If the gentleman&#8217;s club is going to be opening around 10pm, shouldn&#8217;t young children be at home getting ready for bed if they are not already in it.</p>
<p>I was born in Skegness and grew up there, there has always been a mixture of sex, alcohol, gambling and fighting, don&#8217;t you remember the mods, rockers, hells angels, skinheads all coming to town. It never stopped people visiting with their children.</p>
<p>And by the time kids in Skegness hit 13 they are already knowledgeable about what goes on in the town etc. I think a lot of the responsibility should be for the parents to parent their kids, if being close to a gentleman&#8217;s club is a problem then it&#8217;s up to you as parents to keep your kids away. Skegness needs all the help it can get to keep it financially healthy with people willing to spend their money.</p>
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		By: Damon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Damon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-289&quot;&gt;Phil&lt;/a&gt;.

Skegs nothing, but a Gambling, Drunks sex pit.

Nothings changed there then  :)
Maybe I should come back to my hometown it was always fun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Gambling</strong><p>In reply to <a href="http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-289">Phil</a>.</p>
<p>Skegs nothing, but a Gambling, Drunks sex pit.</p>
<p>Nothings changed there then  :)<br />
Maybe I should come back to my hometown it was always fun.</p>
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		By: Skeggy Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skeggy Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-285&quot;&gt;Skeggy Mom&lt;/a&gt;.

And I will be joining you in your complaint.

I wish Taj Bola would have thought this through a little more and listned to peoples concerns, but we all know not to expect buisness men to have morals for the good of a community when there&#039;s money involved :-( or our council for that matter.

A Separate door in the Sky Pier, so kids aren&#039;t exposed to adult behaviour and I would have been happy.

Marie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Sky Pier</strong><p>In reply to <a href="http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-285">Skeggy Mom</a>.</p>
<p>And I will be joining you in your complaint.</p>
<p>I wish Taj Bola would have thought this through a little more and listned to peoples concerns, but we all know not to expect buisness men to have morals for the good of a community when there&#8217;s money involved :-( or our council for that matter.</p>
<p>A Separate door in the Sky Pier, so kids aren&#8217;t exposed to adult behaviour and I would have been happy.</p>
<p>Marie</p>
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		By: Tracy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tracy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I noticed Skegness Standard doing its usual wishy washy reporting there wasn&#039;t one mention of the Gentleman club that&#039;s going to be a part of the Sky Pier

Neither was there a mention during the council meeting I know for a fact it has been brought to their attention

Disgraceful that we have to have this type of sex bar because the council is incapable of attracting new family businesses to the town

One millionaire waves his cash and they take it as they can sit back in there expensive designer furniture and wash there hands of responsibility

skegness needs family values not more sleazy sex clubs and pubs

Tracy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Standard Reporting</strong><p>I noticed Skegness Standard doing its usual wishy washy reporting there wasn&#8217;t one mention of the Gentleman club that&#8217;s going to be a part of the Sky Pier</p>
<p>Neither was there a mention during the council meeting I know for a fact it has been brought to their attention</p>
<p>Disgraceful that we have to have this type of sex bar because the council is incapable of attracting new family businesses to the town</p>
<p>One millionaire waves his cash and they take it as they can sit back in there expensive designer furniture and wash there hands of responsibility</p>
<p>skegness needs family values not more sleazy sex clubs and pubs</p>
<p>Tracy</p>
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		By: Mum's united		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mum's united]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-288&quot;&gt;David Law&lt;/a&gt;.

Could you imagine if this was a pre existing building with a lap dancing club and bars etc… and someone proposed the Girl Guides should meet in the room above the lap dancing club while the lap dancing club was open

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He&#039;s right if Flirts wanted to put a Ice skating ring at the top of their building and kids would have to pass incomming trade to the Lap Dancing club there would be an out cry

Mum&#039;s united]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Flirts Lap Dancing Club</strong><p>In reply to <a href="http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-288">David Law</a>.</p>
<p>Could you imagine if this was a pre existing building with a lap dancing club and bars etc… and someone proposed the Girl Guides should meet in the room above the lap dancing club while the lap dancing club was open</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s right if Flirts wanted to put a Ice skating ring at the top of their building and kids would have to pass incomming trade to the Lap Dancing club there would be an out cry</p>
<p>Mum&#8217;s united</p>
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		By: David Law		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Law]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-290&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

Come on Dan that&#039;s semantics, does it matter that much if I said sexual acts or sexual in nature?

Obviously I&#039;m not suggesting full sex is going to occur in the gentleman&#039;s club, but your comment came across as the other extreme that there&#039;s nothing sexual in lap dancing at all.

The issue regarding drinking in the building is quite straight forward.

The Skypier will be filled with night club like bars that are not what I&#039;d call family friendly pubs (would you consider them family friendly?). I don&#039;t think anyone reasonable in Skegness has an issue with a pub that&#039;s got an area for families, they attract families not binge drinkers. Would be great if more Skegness pubs were family orientated.

Young people flock to Skeggy in summer to get pissed out their heads and pull. I admit that&#039;s why I visited Skegness when I was a young man, and that results in trouble (fighting for example).

If the bars within the Skypier are successful (and I expect they will be) and they are open relatively early in the evening (7pm for example) and the family facilities are open up until 11pm (Taj Bola on a Skegness forum has suggested they might be open that late) there&#039;s a period of time where there&#039;s the POTENTIAL for a significant number of young drunk binge drinkers entering/exiting the Skypier while children and families are using the ice rink etc...

IMO this is asking for trouble, there&#039;s the potential for bottlenecks in the lift and entrance/exit etc... we should try to keep families and children away from binge drinkers, not have them stuck in a lift together!

It&#039;s not rocket science, young men get drunk, young men get in fights.

I lost count the number of fights I got into when I was young when I was out clubbing. Last thing on my mind while I was breaking someones nose because they looked at me funny was are there any families in the doorway that might get hurt!

Use some common sense. It&#039;s not a good idea to have families using the facilities at the same time as binge drinking adults. I have no issue with them being in the same building, it&#039;s using them at the same time I have the issue with.

Having separate entrances/exits would to some degree reduce the chances of trouble occurring in amongst families. Based on the current plans, one entrance/exit with one lift, the safest solution is close the family facilities before the adult facilities open (or at least before they get rowdy).

David]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Gentleman’s Club and Lap Dancing</strong><p>In reply to <a href="http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-290">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>Come on Dan that&#8217;s semantics, does it matter that much if I said sexual acts or sexual in nature?</p>
<p>Obviously I&#8217;m not suggesting full sex is going to occur in the gentleman&#8217;s club, but your comment came across as the other extreme that there&#8217;s nothing sexual in lap dancing at all.</p>
<p>The issue regarding drinking in the building is quite straight forward.</p>
<p>The Skypier will be filled with night club like bars that are not what I&#8217;d call family friendly pubs (would you consider them family friendly?). I don&#8217;t think anyone reasonable in Skegness has an issue with a pub that&#8217;s got an area for families, they attract families not binge drinkers. Would be great if more Skegness pubs were family orientated.</p>
<p>Young people flock to Skeggy in summer to get pissed out their heads and pull. I admit that&#8217;s why I visited Skegness when I was a young man, and that results in trouble (fighting for example).</p>
<p>If the bars within the Skypier are successful (and I expect they will be) and they are open relatively early in the evening (7pm for example) and the family facilities are open up until 11pm (Taj Bola on a Skegness forum has suggested they might be open that late) there&#8217;s a period of time where there&#8217;s the POTENTIAL for a significant number of young drunk binge drinkers entering/exiting the Skypier while children and families are using the ice rink etc&#8230;</p>
<p>IMO this is asking for trouble, there&#8217;s the potential for bottlenecks in the lift and entrance/exit etc&#8230; we should try to keep families and children away from binge drinkers, not have them stuck in a lift together!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not rocket science, young men get drunk, young men get in fights.</p>
<p>I lost count the number of fights I got into when I was young when I was out clubbing. Last thing on my mind while I was breaking someones nose because they looked at me funny was are there any families in the doorway that might get hurt!</p>
<p>Use some common sense. It&#8217;s not a good idea to have families using the facilities at the same time as binge drinking adults. I have no issue with them being in the same building, it&#8217;s using them at the same time I have the issue with.</p>
<p>Having separate entrances/exits would to some degree reduce the chances of trouble occurring in amongst families. Based on the current plans, one entrance/exit with one lift, the safest solution is close the family facilities before the adult facilities open (or at least before they get rowdy).</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-288&quot;&gt;David Law&lt;/a&gt;.

It was more your wording that I didnt agree with, saying a sexual act would imply that a service of sex was taking place.  I understand fully what you mean about having it in the same building as family entertainment.

But if it is run properly which I am sure they will ensure it is then it shouldnt cause a problem. With regards to your comment on having the bars open when there are family leisure facilities open have you ever been to the pier bowl? That is a family place but has it&#039;s bar open, and also Fantasy Island has many bars open during the day whilst families are around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<strong class="comment-title-seo">Skegness Family Leisure Facilities</strong><p>In reply to <a href="http://www.skegness-attractions.co.uk/plans-for-skegness-sky-pier-grand-parade-fire-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-288">David Law</a>.</p>
<p>It was more your wording that I didnt agree with, saying a sexual act would imply that a service of sex was taking place.  I understand fully what you mean about having it in the same building as family entertainment.</p>
<p>But if it is run properly which I am sure they will ensure it is then it shouldnt cause a problem. With regards to your comment on having the bars open when there are family leisure facilities open have you ever been to the pier bowl? That is a family place but has it&#8217;s bar open, and also Fantasy Island has many bars open during the day whilst families are around.</p>
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